- Aug 27, 2021
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check out those big commercial rolls - office works has them too. They also take up less room for storage. We bought cheap - we were also thinking of family, both sides.TP - 6 months worth ... Very , very , very , conservative estimate ! ( Off stock on hand )
Aldi hasn't had TP for about a month now ..
Might have to go to Costco and pick up a 48 pack ...
Seems to me mate that you have already pretty much prepped Well done Randall, & thank you for sharing.Well Keith, in answer to your question, which is a good one. I have watched a fair bit of the preppers series, and decided that I don't want prepping to become my life. I have other interests - in short I want to enjoy my life as much as I reasonably can; so that is my focus. We work on a 2 week basis - potentially 2 weeks without power, or water, or food or any one of those.
Since leaving home, I've always conserved water. This is still a very basic process; our washing machine empties into a sink. I plug that sink and we use that water for flushing the toilet. In a previous house we had a shower over the bath; we plugged the bath and used that water to flush the toilet. In an earlier house in a warmer climate (Gippsland) I was able to disconnect the bath from underneath and make a connection for 3/4" garden hose - I used the bath water to water the trees in my garden. Right now we also collect the cold water that initially comes out of the shower head in a bucket - this also gets used in the toilet. I also have a garden hose connected to the overflow of our hot water service. This keeps a birdbath full (wallabies and birds use this) and regularly fills a 20lt water bottle that gets used in the toilet through colder months or used to water plants through the warmer months. It actually pushes out a lot more water through the warmer months. I water trees / plants via a 4 litre icrecream container with a small hole in the bottom - put the container at the base of the tree and fill it up.
We keep 40 litres of water for emergency use. We have the potential to store more if we get any warning. This gets used and replaced every now and then so we know it's good.
We have led torches with rechargable batteries - both head lights and hand held. These are all over the place, including edc kits that I always have with me.
I have always kept a stock of food and consumables; easily enough for two weeks. This and water conservation are habits borne from living in remote locations where water and supplies weren't easily available. We have lots of bottled tomato sauces, dried tomatoes, dried fruits, oats, rice protein, rice, uht milk, noodles, baked beans, processed cheddar cheese; just lots of stuff that doesn't need refridgerating. We try to keep at least a 2 week stock of most things except for perishables (meat and fresh vegetables).
Camp stoves. Some run on fuel, one is a hobo stove that is very economical with small amounts of wood.
Lots of warm survival type clothing. Because of where we live. This is mostly bushwalking gear but also means we can stay warm and not depend on heating.
A vegetable garden. Right now we have lots of rocket and lemon verbena. That isn't all the time of course, but we try to keep something going.
Skills and general preparedness. Both of these are actually a by product of our lifestyles. We both maintain some fitness and flexibility for mtb, bush walking, general health and mental well being. Hopefully we're preventing some medical issues. I like to think I can walk 30km at the drop of a hat; I usually dress in gear that I can do that in, even when I look smart / casual. I always have my daypack with me; even when it is mostly empty it still has my phone, edc kit, compass, pen, pad etc.
We both use bicycles and walking for transport. We still drive cars but we're quite comfortable with walking and riding to work, shopping etc.
Again to do with lifestyle, but I also see it as a prepping thing; generator and large lithium battery, 35litre fridge. If there is no power we can keep a small fridge going, charge phones, torch batteries, listen to radio, use laptop or whatever. The battery is a 2000wh. The generator can charge it in 3hrs and also run / charge other things at the same time. The generator is also a 2000 watt output, but will generally be running around half of that easily (not working hard).
Lots of tools and know how. I can do a lot of my own repairs and some manufacture. Axes, saws, general tools etc.
Lots of spare parts for car, van and bicycles. These include oils and filters for maintenance. The bicycle spares have really come in handy during the covid pandemic - bicycles and bicycle parts have been in short supply world wide. Consider tyres, brake pads, drive train - all those consumables or things that can be damaged.
Good walking boots, hats, gloves, coats etc.
10 liter jerry can of fuel - that will last for ages in the generator. We have two jerry cans - one I use in the mower, when it's empty I fill it up and put it aside, then start using the other one. They are probably kept for 6 months or more before being used. Mower doesn't use much. Fuel still seems good.
Two kilometers of toilet paper . It's actually just two industrial rolls, 4,000 feet each. Not big at all. This is due to the asian induced toilet roll panic. Every time there is a little covid panic I still see people going crazy on toilet paper here. We just keep it in a cupboard - it's mostly forgotten about. By keeping a big store of everything, we never panic buy, we just shop normally.
Again, not looking to go indefinitely; aiming at 2 weeks or so of living without water or power or supplies. Some things will last longer of course but everything should be a minimum of two weeks.
Good post RandallI think all those prepper films are a great insight into what is actually involved to be reasonably serious - it really is a huge commitment. It seems to be their life; how they spend most of their leisure time. If it gels with your lifestyle though, or that's your passion, then it is something you enjoy doing; a win win.
Accepting that the big picture is looking grim, if you're not interested in committing for that sort of scenario, I think it is still a good idea to take some measures. As I said, for me it's two weeks. The good news is, this is kind of like the short term goal of the serious preppers, and it is definitely going to be used when something goes wrong.
We've had a couple of examples here, both storm related. The last few days, many have been without power and / or water (lack of water is an irony) due to huge rainfall. Rivers and creeks are flooding, some roads have been closed etc. These sorts of smaller events are going to continue, of course, along with fire and shortages of anything related to our world wide and domestic supply infrastructure. So for other lazy folk like me, 2 weeks should be achievable and you will see the benefits of it. If nothing else it just means you can go shopping at your leisure because you have a reasonable stock of the essentials. Oh, consider medical things as well.
I've always been passionate about basic edc stuff that is with me all the time. You don't have to consider, grab the kit and go. You can't cover everything (even the most serious preppers can't), but a good way to start is to prepare for the things that are most likely going to happen. For example, in my edc kit I have a small container of sunscreen and some toilet paper, some folding money, aaa battery torch (try not to depend on your phone - you may need all it's power to use as a phone) - stuff like that. Just start. In fact, I'd suggest an edc is the first thing to work on - if things go wrong you may not be able to get home, or it might be flooded, or burnt to the ground. Remember to keep it small so that it isn't much trouble to have on you. I never go leave home without a day pack - it might only have my edc kit, a bottle of water and some other essentials. If it's nearly empty, that's good too - it means I can fill it up with some shopping or something else I've found while out - awesome looking home grown vegetables or fruit that someone is selling out the front of their house.
Good post 4570Hmmmm ...
The more gear you can PACK , the better your chances long term ----- Depending on the nature of the FUBAR !
Again giving pause , for not going anywhere ..
So what should you have on hand ?
Food and water may only last so long ( as well power / gas ) Why I hate the way solar was done ! ( Feeds the grid )
If power goes , current solar does nothing for you .. ( As installed by power companies = A RIP )
Oh well ! I guess if things go FUBAR , the solar can be rewired .
Do you require meds ?
How long can you live without meds ?
Do your meds require refrigeration ?
Food ... Again depending on the level of FUBAR ...
Would buying seed be worth while ? How good is the soil where you are = what will grow .
What will money be worth ? ( Toilet paper ? ) Barter might be a new catch phrase .. So what do you have to barter ?
Work or services , what can you provide ? ( Marketable skills post FUBAR )
Just some very basic considerations .
One place to look is countries that have gone belly up ...
Rampant inflation , devalued currency , materials - goods shortages !
Covid gave us a small taste of shortages - inflation - and such as factories all over the world shut down or slowed down .
Consider what you can live without and what you can't live without .
Simple things like - glue , band aids , antiseptics ...
Once you get serious about this ........
The list you will end up with will be huge ...
Especially if you are contemplating long term ...
Like the idea of guerilla gardening in the towns too . Just plant paw paw or throw tomato out of a sandwich or whatever into a garden somewhere , hard to say how hard the judge would laugh if you were charged for that .the communal street gardens they have now are great . Should be more avenues of honor lined with avocado and mango, fruit trees btw.There was a thing way back in recent history ..
Victory Gardens ...
People turned front / back yards into vegi patches .
Or got flower pots and grew edible plants that would grow in a pot .
In the USA they did community gardens ....
But for some reason the US FEDS seem to be trying to stop home growers ....
Some places , it's against the law to grow vegies ... The land of the free Hu ?
It is difficult to plant directly fresh seeds / seedlings here too , you have to account for the native animals . Especially the supple young shoots .Hehehehehehehehe , yeah ......
Long time ago , when I did field archery ...
There were some naughty people that would seed .... ( Allegedly naughty )
They would go hunting in NSW and on the way back swing past certain areas and drop off iGlets ...
I also knew one person that was trying to make vegies grow wild ... ( He said - she said )
I never witnessed such things , but often people said stuff that might have been filed away as BS at the time . ( Early 80's )
I guess archers could be a wild bunch at times .