Last-Aid in the Bush

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It's a sad state of affairs whe people are too scared of litigation to offer assistance to those around them... it's even worse that someone would consider such action once help has been given... many times it's a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't, soon we will have to get consent in writing before any aid is rendered...
 

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It's a sad state of affairs whe people are too scared of litigation to offer assistance to those around them... it's even worse that someone would consider such action once help has been given... many times it's a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't, soon we will have to get consent in writing before any aid is rendered...
I hope not! In the case I mentioned, the action taken saved her life, she is suing over events leading up to, purely for profit (IMHO)

I implore people seeing someone in need to not consider such repercussions and just render whatever assistance we can. That's what Aussies do, not for fame or acolade but simply because it is the right thing to do. Saw plenty of it first hand after the Brisbane floods. Makes you proud it does! ;)
 

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The slight possibility of being sued isn't going to stop me.
I think I would aways do what I could with what I have at hand although I do not always carry the mask and gloves with me for personal protection.
When I get sme decent money together I should buy a spare mask or a pack of the disposable ones
 

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i believe if you generally are trying to help and stay within your level of training you will be safe. i agree will continue to help
 

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Informed consent from people is just as good as written consent. There shouldn't be a problem if a person has given you their verbal consent if they are over legal age and of sound mind. However just remember if your are helping someone be mindful to operate within your training and always call for help if you are stuck in a situation and do not know what to do. The main thing is that you are not leaving the person alone. This in itself is a great help.
Dusty
 

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With regards to nurses they do not have to stop and assist if they do not want too and doctors are the only ones classed as proffessionals.
In saying that not many of these people would not try helping out as they too will be covered by the good samaritan law not under their medical or nursing licenses
I as a registerd paramedic in the UK on the health professions council http://www.hpc-uk.org/ am also classed as a professional at my job.
I also have a cetificate of clinical practice to work as an Advance care paramedic in queensland. They hope to also one day bring in UK style registration to australia so ALL paramedic will be the same across the country.

Now all medical people when off duty do not have to stop and help if they do not want to but as you say it is difficult not to help as it is in our nature that is why we do the job we do. But saying that not all Doctors are equal in there skill some are specialist in one field only and not that good at Pre hospital emergency medicine. I have had times when they have been more of a hinderence than a help on a job also I would not use them for and medical procedures on a job unless they have an ID card on them to PROVE they are who they say they are. It has been known that wannabees listen to scanners and then go and say they are paramedics or nurses or even surgeons so they can help, this will leave me and my patient open to the law and being sued by the patient and loseing my job. So unless I know you or you can prove what you say you are then do not take offence when I ask you to step back and let me do my job. I will gladly use people to help me carry stretchers and hold fluid bags up as I work on my own but think youare going to do a chest decomp or a needle cricothyrotomy or open chest surgery as a punch in the face may be taken the wrong way.

My No1 creed is to PRESERVE LIFE you get in the way of that then I will stop you.


Sorry this may sound like a rant but as pre hospital EMS we tend to get looked down on by nurses and doctors but we do a hard job in some difficult places and it is a rear thing to get praise from a Doctor for what we do.
Please take no offence from this and I hope I never have to see you in my professional standing but just as a friend.

Lee Caulfield-Marsh (PA13524 HPC Number)
 

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Swampy you are right and thank you for your service. First Responders alot of the time are the only reason a patient gets to meet a Doc alive!
 
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