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Friction Fire Fail

Aussie123

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I had a fun friction fire fail on the weekend

There's been lots of rain over recent weeks. I found a dead, standing black wattle (which I had seen recommended by a respected source)
- I thought I'd give it a go

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... and why make 1 set, when you can make 2 ?
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Burn in worked well ... but I could feel the wood was a little damp, soaked through from the outside ...
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Lots of dust and smoke, but no coal or fire ...
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I thought I'd take it home and dry it out properly and try again.
... Being impatient I thought I'd microwave the wood to speed up the drying

I took the warm wood out of the microwave and put it on the floor ... I was very surprised when I picked it up a few mins later ... lots of condensed water
coming out of the wood.

I repeated a few times, and each time I got more water.
The photo doesn't do justice to it, but I was surprised how much water came out and it only felt a little damp.

Its sunny today, so I'll leave it on a window sill to continue drying
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(Caution: Microwaving wood is a fire hazard so follow the instructions and be cautious)
 

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I had a fun friction fire fail on the weekend

There's been lots of rain over recent weeks. I found a dead, standing black wattle (which I had seen recommended by a respected source)
- I thought I'd give it a go

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... and why make 1 set, when you can make 2 ?
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Burn in worked well ... but I could feel the wood was a little damp, soaked through from the outside ...
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Lots of dust and smoke, but no coal or fire ...
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I thought I'd take it home and dry it out properly and try again.
... Being impatient I thought I'd microwave the wood to speed up the drying

I took the warm wood out of the microwave and put it on the floor ... I was very surprised when I picked it up a few mins later ... lots of condensed water
coming out of the wood.

I repeated a few times, and each time I got more water.
The photo doesn't do justice to it, but I was surprised how much water came out and it only felt a little damp.

Its sunny today, so I'll leave it on a window sill to continue drying
View attachment 28703

(Caution: Microwaving wood is a fire hazard so follow the instructions and be cautious)
I will not say this is the wrong wood to use Aussie, but there are better alternatives, & soft woods are better than hard woods.


Hope this helps.
Regards, Keith.
 

Aussie123

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Thanks Keith.

I agree, but the tree was there and I thought I'd give it a go ! And once its properly dry, I'll try it again !
There is native mulberry and xmas bush in the area, which are very good for fire
 

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Great post Aussie, I've never tried black wattle for fire by fiction.
We've got about 100% humidity here at the moment and I can imagine water running out of the wood in a similar way.
I just need a little dynamo rig for a microwave!
 

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I’ve seen the so called survival experts, when dropped in the jungle somewhere out of their element on those survival type tv shows, and they’ve generally failed en mass at lighting friction fire due to moisture and humidity .

always wondered what the solution was Aussie ! :)
 

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I’ve seen the so called survival experts, when dropped in the jungle somewhere out of their element on those survival type tv shows, and they’ve generally failed en mass at lighting friction fire due to moisture and humidity .

always wondered what the solution was Aussie ! :)
Before I started teaching fire bow fire lighting, I went into the forest in winter on a day when it was pouring with rain. I had no tools with me what so ever, I had to make everything from scratch. I did make fire that day using the fire bow that I made, so it can be done.
Regards, Keith.
 

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I've been watching Alone : The Beast.
seeing them struggle, on occasion for 8 hours to get friction fire is interesting. Using reed knife to butcher game was also fascinating.
worth a watch.
 
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