Easy to carry firestarters

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I have looked at some easy to carry firelighters, things that are easy to put in your wallet. I trialled a few different things starting with standard hospital alco wipes, you know the things nurses use before they stick you with a needle. Well they were a disaster. They do flame but only after they are hit with a cigarette lighter and they don't last long.
The next things i tried were adhesive removal wipes by Conva-care, and skin-prep by Smith and nephew. The skin prep is used in hospitals prior to putting adhesive dressings on as it enhances the sticking power. Both of these are the same size as an alco wipe.
Happy to say that both of these worked really well when sparked with a ferro rod, with the skin-prep working the best and producing a usable flame for over 50 secs. I have added some to my wallet and fire kit.

this is what i am talking about with the skin prep packet back and front on the top row. You will notice the poor performing alco wipe



Skin prep is on the left, adhesive remover on the right



Esee firerod and skin prep at 20 seconds

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Just thought i would share my observations.

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Thanks for the reviews. I've not tried those types of items yet for firestarting.
I like that they're dual use, because they can be used for first aid and hygiene as well.

I do think everyone needs to have something in their kit that helps to get a fire started when everything around them is soaking wet.
It's easy to light a fire in good weather when surrounded by sticks, bark, etc. but it's when everything is soaked (including yourself) then a fire becomes absolutely critical.

I've made the firestarters from cotton balls soaked in vaseline, then covered with tape. They work well but I'd prefer not to be burning tape if I can avoid it.

An alternative approach I want to try is soak the cotton balls in vaseline, then squash them flat, then dunk them in melted wax. That way the wax stops the vaseline from going everywhere.
Then to light them just rip them in half breaking the wax apart exposing the vaseline.

The reason for squashing them flat is that they'll fit better into a kit than a round wax coated ball.
If/when I get around to trying that I'll post a review.
 
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Hey lifecraft, good idea! Maybe try using the make up removal pads in Vaseline, then there flat for you! Brilliant idea about the wax, you reckon if you froze the Vaselined pad then put it in warm wax it would help?
 

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For dual use, what about alcoholic hand gel, that certainly goes up, but the flame is nearly invisible as I found out from personal experience...
 

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Good experimentation. Thanks for posting your findings.
 

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I work in a hospital and see these resources all the time. I wonder if a gauze or micropore tape would catch a spark... Hmmm
 

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I like the alcoholic hand gel myself. Cleans hands, disinfects minor injuries (not optimal for this as it dries out the wound, but it works!) and is a firestarter to boot. What is not to like :). I always have some on me.
 

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i have tried a few different hospital dressings but none seem to work, i guess gauze and vaseline would work. good idea about micropore. i doubt it would take a spark nut probably would flame to a match to help establish a fire.
 

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I just use my cotton ball with vasolene as a fire starter and also rub them on my knife after the days work to keep rust at bay.
 

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Cotton makeup removal pads with vaseline in the middle work pretty well. Or soaked in hot wax.

Just need to open them up (butterfly them) before hitting them with a ferro rod
 

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Thanks for the reviews. I've not tried those types of items yet for firestarting.
I like that they're dual use, because they can be used for first aid and hygiene as well.

I do think everyone needs to have something in their kit that helps to get a fire started when everything around them is soaking wet.
It's easy to light a fire in good weather when surrounded by sticks, bark, etc. but it's when everything is soaked (including yourself) then a fire becomes absolutely critical.

I've made the firestarters from cotton balls soaked in vaseline, then covered with tape. They work well but I'd prefer not to be burning tape if I can avoid it.

An alternative approach I want to try is soak the cotton balls in vaseline, then squash them flat, then dunk them in melted wax. That way the wax stops the vaseline from going everywhere.
Then to light them just rip them in half breaking the wax apart exposing the vaseline.

The reason for squashing them flat is that they'll fit better into a kit than a round wax coated ball.
If/when I get around to trying that I'll post a review.
Hi life craft

I use this trick, its great if you dont mind a bit of fiddling in the shed, and it stands up to wear and tear, stops vaseline leaking out everywhere on hot days when your ziplock bag bursts:
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squash the straw flat in needle nose pliers, with a couple of mm sticking out, Melt with lighter and smooth it over the pliers. Cut it off about 30mm lomg, then, using a chopstick, push the vaseline soaked cotton balls into the straw. Easier if u kind of roll the ball into a long thread first. Once it's all in....IMPORTANT.....make sure you wipe off the excess vaseline that is on the outside of the straw (if you don't it will light up when you melt the end) then squash and melt over the open end, same as the first. When you need it, cut it open with your knife, pull out the wool, spread and light. Rub the excess on your poor chapped outdoorsman's lips, and all is good!
 

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I have been using the cotton make up pads but what I do is rub vaseline onto the pad and then roll it up like a smoke with the vaseline on the inside, then tie it up with butchers twine (cotton twine) then dunk the whole lot into melted wax using the excess twine to hold onto when dunking. Once cooled cut the twine back the where it is covered in wax this can the acted as a wick to light with a match. If you are using a fero rod just pull it apart to expose some cotton. these burn for about 5-8 minutes giving you heaps of time to get your fire going.
Also because they are cover in wax the are totally water proof, you can submerge them and they will still work.
I will take some photos on the weekend to show you what i mean.
 

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I make cotton make-up pad soaked in melted beeswax candle and dried. Torn almost in two and lit, it yields about 6 mins of burn time. They aer water and faily wind proof.







Test at 3 min.
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Google "Hammero TinderCard". Ok, its a bought product. Comes in flat-sheets, thinner than standard cardboard. A piece about 1 cm by 3 cm, busted apart and fluffed up will take a spark from a ferro rod. Great to line the bottom of survival kit tins. I have a custom-cut sheet on the bottom of my medium sized survival kit which should be enough for ten fire starts. I don't know how long it lasts in storage.
For DIY, I'm also a great fan of cotton wool balls with Vaseline, plus or minus a bit of metho. I have some with metho stuffed tightly in an air-tight glass jar that have been in storage for over ten years and still work like I made them yesterday.
 

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Thanks Pyromage, your Pyro tag says it all. I just tried a couple of different brands of hand sanitizer on half a sheet of toilet paper plus or minus a bit of metho carried from my stove. You have a winner! Sanitizer, TP, and metho; all things that I'd normally carry anyway. No discernible difference between brands of hand sanitizer. Adding just a bit of metho at the last moment before ignition helps. From now on, Vaseline cotton balls plus minus alcohol are for lubing the knife bade or zits, and I'm way too old for zits.
 

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Arrived today. 5.99 delivered, put some tissue paper in the holder and afternoon sun at 4pm had it smoking sub 30sec. It has an slight orange peel effect on the reflector and is very slim, easily could fit in a shirt pocket
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