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Brother F005 Sheath Knife ( D2 )

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Ordered a few months ago in hopes of getting it some time in 2021 .... ( yay )

A) Knife seems to be ok ( Looks / Feels )
B) Sheath is kydex and does not tick any boxes for me
C) Thankfully I have a leather sheath that looks to work ( Spare )

There was some rough spots on the edge , and I stropped them away ..
Edge is Scandi with a micro bevel / edge .. ( Hmmmm )
Do I fully scandi the edge after I test the factory edge ... (?) I have wanted a D2 scandi , for sure ..
Spine is sharp enough for a ferrite rod ... So should throw sparks .
I have wanted this one for most of 2021 , or since finding out it existed !
Should be interesting !
 

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Factory Edge slices rope ..
First 50 was ok ..
100 still ok
150 and it's getting to be work
200 Fail and it was hard work to slice rope .

Re Sharpen !
OMG .... Getting rid of that Micro Bevel = Massive PITA !!!
 

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I don't understand micro bevel on a scandi - it is instantly thicker behind the edge and will only get worse the more it is sharpened. A scandi in contrast will always remain the same thickness behind the edge. The downside of removing a micro bevel is all the material that has to be removed to get it back to a scandi. I imagine your wheel will make short work of it though :). It will also be a bit of a concave which will make it even slighter more thin behind the edge - it should be a wicked slicer!
 

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Hmmmm .

So a Scandi with a micro bevel is a little like a sabre .. Only the bevel is barely visible to the eye ( Micro Bevel )

100% Scandi = Fragile edge due to how thin it is and often edge rolls when the going gets tough .
For light work , the Scandi can be brilliant . For hard work , a PITA !
Which is why some people cheat by putting a micro bevel on their scandi to help avoid the edge roll .

It took me close to 3 hours to remove the micro bevel ..
As this knife is touted as being Scandi , not Sabre ...
And I had to do it by hand , which was brutal .
So right now , I have a 100% Scandi edge on the Brother F005 D2 ( I had to put it there ) .
 

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For sure. The supposed beauty of scandi is ease of freehand sharpening and cutting (not slicing). It seems a bit backward to modify a particular design to get the knife to act like a different design and lose the strengths of the scandi in the process - cutting and ease of freehand sharpening. A hard use flat grind knife with 20° bevel would be a reasonably tough knife depending on other geometry etc - I have quite a few of those. A scandi could suit someone who wanted to keep things simple - one knife and a stone.

Quite a few scandi knives seem tough enough even for bushcraft use; some of the moras. I have an enzo birk with thick blade stock that cuts like crazy, it's tough and considered a bushcraft folder. A bit too heavy for me when walking or riding - it's one of my workers.
 
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Re Sharpened and put to the rope ...
First 20 slices were like a laser scalpel , scary sharp !
Then I felt a slight loss in cutting power , ( Edge Roll )
And sure enough , the edge had rolled at the 50 slice paper slice test ..
At 100 slices the roll was a little worse
At 150 slices the roll was , diminishing
At 200 slices the roll was , well I could not feel it .
At 250 slices , it was a fail . At the point where the roll was the worst , the edge had given up .

This was also the least sharp part of the blade .
The factory grind was not that even , and where the roll was the worst there was a small rise / lump / in the Scandi edge ...
And it took a lot of work to try and level things out ..
I did more work today to try and even things out ( getting close ) ...

Push come to shove , 250 is not a great performance .. Especially for D2 (?)

I have to say , that re sharpening to a true Scandi edge just made the knife a better cutter .
Even though it was hard work to get there and an extra 50 slices is ??????????????? ..
The mods to the sheath ( shown in the video ) , were well worth the effort . ( Even though I burned my finger tips a little )

Hmmmm , an average knife for the average money , and by no means perfect .
Knife for it's size is a little heavy , a little top heavy ( weight to the handle ) . Slices well enough , feels good in the hand ( except for the balance ) .. Some people might prefer more weight to the handle / hand .
I like the size , and the knife would have been better if lighter . There is a lot of steel for the size of the knife ( Crowbar ? )

Good size , over weight , average performance , average price , sheath needs work , can't really recommend it .
If you have to have one (?) ...
I watched too many reviews crowing about this knife and I have to really wonder (?) Why ?
 
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